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Blasco Rafael Blasco Rafael

Hola, encontre este estiercol de vaca estos apotec

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Josep Torres Josep Torres

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David Chapados David Chapados

Hi, Does somebody know the genus that has those b

07-09-2025 11:34

Zuzana Sochorová (Egertová) Zuzana Sochorová (Egertová)

Hello,I have identified this fungus as Hymenoscyph

02-09-2025 11:34

Thomas Læssøe

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05-09-2025 09:32

Nicolas VAN VOOREN Nicolas VAN VOOREN

Bonjour, hi everyone,Do you know where the fungari

05-09-2025 18:53

Robin Isaksson Robin Isaksson

Hi! Spores 1 septate; 12-13 x 3um Hairs 35-75

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Cudoniella?
William Slosse, 06-03-2020 22:03
William SlosseGood evening everyone,
today I found this asco on a decorticated branch of Sambucus nigra in the Oosthoek dunes in De Panne. I thought it could have been a Cudoniella here.

Apothecium: max 1 mm diameter; cream to light brown; exipulum with small flank hairs.
Stem: height max 0.8mm; basal half dark brown; apical part with small hairs.
Spores: 2 oil drops; Av = 4.39x2.30; Qav = 1.90; N = 14
Asci: J-; 8-track; croiziers present


Thanks you for any suggestion.


William

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Hans-Otto Baral, 06-03-2020 22:12
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Cudoniella?
The hairs clearly refer this to Cistella. Perhaps C. geelmuydenii. But asci should be hemiamyloid, did you try with Lugol. or with KOH-pretreatment?
William Slosse, 07-03-2020 22:10
William Slosse
Re : Cudoniella?
This is the only visual reaction I obtain in IKI 1-3.
Perhaps my KOH and Lugol are degenerated.

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Hans-Otto Baral, 07-03-2020 22:35
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Cudoniella?
I mean the minute ascus apical ring should react hemiamyloid, sorry. This is only visible with oil immersion.  If your Lugol (without KOH) stains the plasma yellowish, then it is good to check this.
William Slosse, 08-03-2020 10:23
William Slosse
Re : Cudoniella?
Hello Zotto,
these are the results after a few minutes soaking in Lugol.
I just notice a very slight discoloration in the ascustop.
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Hans-Otto Baral, 08-03-2020 10:25
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Cudoniella?
Yes, there could be a reaction. But your Lugol is much too weak, needs simply a few iodine crystals to add.
William Slosse, 08-03-2020 11:30
William Slosse
Re : Cudoniella?
Forgive my critical attitude, Zotto, but could these eventually be Hyphodiscus (hymeniophilus)? It's a gues based on a paper of Quijada et al. 'Studies in Hyaloscyphaceae associated with major vegetation types in the Canary Islands I: Cistella and Hyphodiscus' (2015). There are, among other things, a few photos of the hairs that are very similar to those of the specimen discussed here.

Hans-Otto Baral, 08-03-2020 11:33
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Cudoniella?
It is worth thinking, but I would not expect such apically inflated hairs there, nor whitish apothecia. Hyphodiscus is morphologically close to Cistella, but typically has gel in the excipulum, though this is not a consistent character. Also the warts on the hairs are larger and fewer.
William Slosse, 10-03-2020 21:31
William Slosse
Re : Cudoniella?
So, Zotto, I was able to make some preparations in a stronger Lugol.
I think I now notice a clear discoloration in the ascustop.
What is your verdict: Cistella?
And is it possible to put a generic name on it?
Kind regards, William
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Hans-Otto Baral, 10-03-2020 21:53
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Cudoniella?
So clearly positive and seems hemiamyloid (type rb, dirty red).

I still believe in a Cistella, and C. geelmuydenii would be my first choice.
William Slosse, 10-03-2020 22:02
William Slosse
Re : Cudoniella?
Thank you, Zotto, for this nice and very instructive discussion.
Regards, William