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Hysteropeltella?
Angel Pintos,
24-12-2016 18:17
On Juniperus sp.Ascomata hysteriform no carbonaceus
Asci Clavate, bitunicate
paraphysis filiform
Ascospores asymetric, 5 septa, hyaline surrounded by a thick gelatinous sheath.
thank for your help
Hans-Otto Baral,
25-12-2016 08:57
Re : Hysteropeltella?
Ah, not sure what this is. Hysteropatella I only know without gel sheath.
Hysteropeltella has 1-septate spores and only one species on a fern is known.
Did you test IKI?
Hysteropeltella has 1-septate spores and only one species on a fern is known.
Did you test IKI?
Angel Pintos,
25-12-2016 09:42
Re : Hysteropeltella?
Hi Zotto, I did it wiht lugol and all the hamathecium became red. no reaction blue in asci.(I have no IKI)
I am confussed with it, The ascomata fits wiht both of them, I would like to find the descriptions of Hysteropatella species. Hysteropeltella as you said only has one specie" moravica".
I will continue......
best regards
Angel
I am confussed with it, The ascomata fits wiht both of them, I would like to find the descriptions of Hysteropatella species. Hysteropeltella as you said only has one specie" moravica".
I will continue......
best regards
Angel
Hans-Otto Baral,
25-12-2016 10:05
Re : Hysteropeltella?
Lugol and IKI is the same and only varies in concentration.
If it turns red, you should make the test with KOH-pretreatment. Adding 2-10% KOH for some seconds on the slide, then washing with a drop of water, and then add Lugol. I suspect it will then react deep blue.
Hysteropatella is competely inamyloid.
If it turns red, you should make the test with KOH-pretreatment. Adding 2-10% KOH for some seconds on the slide, then washing with a drop of water, and then add Lugol. I suspect it will then react deep blue.
Hysteropatella is competely inamyloid.
Angel Pintos,
25-12-2016 10:25
Re : Hysteropeltella?
This is the result of it
Hans-Otto Baral,
25-12-2016 10:33
Re : Hysteropeltella?
This orange colour may really be a hemiamyloid reaction.
See on my homepage
http://invivoveritas.de/articles/iodine-reaction-in-ascomycetes-why-is-lugols-solution-superior-to-melzers-reagent/
See on my homepage
http://invivoveritas.de/articles/iodine-reaction-in-ascomycetes-why-is-lugols-solution-superior-to-melzers-reagent/
Angel Pintos,
25-12-2016 11:00
Re : Hysteropeltella?
But is not reaction on apical ring of asci. In Hysteropatella no any coment about lugol´s reaction.
I am lost with it by the moment
Regards
Angel
I am lost with it by the moment
Regards
Angel
Hans-Otto Baral,
25-12-2016 11:41
Re : Hysteropeltella?
Hysteropatella spp. are completely inamyloid, whatever you do. You can look in my folder on
http://invivoveritas.de/ascomycetes-illustrations/
go to 4b Dothideomycetes
then Patellariales IKI-
I assume in your species the gel around the asci is strongly hemiamyloid , but I am not sure.
http://invivoveritas.de/ascomycetes-illustrations/
go to 4b Dothideomycetes
then Patellariales IKI-
I assume in your species the gel around the asci is strongly hemiamyloid , but I am not sure.
Angel Pintos,
26-12-2016 07:44
Re : Hysteropeltella?
Thanks a lot for your help,
saludos
Angel
saludos
Angel