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Rafael

Yes, it must be Tryblidaria. There is also T. azarae which I know with 4-spored asci. Your acsi look 4-spored, do they? The genus is quite difficult, though not large.

Todas las referencias que encuentro en Red son con Ascas de 8 esporas, con 4 no veo nada.
Rafael 

Alguno de Ustedes tiene disponible para su envio, descripcion o claves sobre este genero ????

I do not have the Urries paper, I remember Ricardo Galán showed it to me when we were in Spain. I also think that the spore number is inconstant, when I look at my images in the folder azarae.

Tryblidaria azarae Urries, Boln Real Soc. Españ. Hist. Nat., Biologica 32(4): 223 (1932)

I do not know a key. Kutorga & Hawksworth treat two species, fenestrata and pakistani, the former with asci (2-)4-6(-8)-spored, and the latter in my opinion hardly different from fenestrata.

Hi Zotto,

The Urries paper is online.
See http://bibdigital.rjb.csic.es/spa/Libro.php?Libro=1251&Pagina=231

Best, Guy

Thanks indeed! The spores of T. azarae are only a little smaller than Rafael's, and asci are said to be 8-spored. Well, I do not really understand the difference to T. fenestrata. What I tentatively named fenestrata has +/- ellipsoid spores with obtuse ends, while azarae has more fusiform spores with tapered, almost acute ends. Yours clearly fit the latter. But Kutorga & Hawks. figure for fenestrata also spores with subacute ends, and quite large.

Viendo el papel de Urries, parece que seria T. fenestrata,
T. azarae segun se ve en el dibujo de Urries tiene esporas con los extremos en punta, son un poco mas pequeñas y da hasta 11 septos transversales, tambien da Ascas mas largas,

He revisado mas Esporas y mas Ascas lo maximo que veo son 6 septos transversales y una largura de Ascas que en ningun caso llega a 200 m.
si nos fijamos bien en las esporas que mando parece una especie muy cambiante segun la maduracion de las esporas,
1º son con extremos mas en punta, para ir volviendose mas obtusos cuando el grado de maduracion es alto y estan preparadas para salir del Asca.
la mayoria de las esporas que veo son con uno de los extremos en punta y el otro obtuso, parece quer es un caracter que se repite.

la verdad es que no lo tengo nada claro, pero como digo viendo los dibujos de Urries se ve diferencias que lo separan de su T.azarae.

Un saludo
Rafael 

I fear my english translator is not good enough to understand all well. But when I look at your new pics I get the impression that there are ONLY trensversal septa, NO longitudinal. Then it would neither be fenestrata nor azarae, because both have muriform spores.

Tiene Usted razon Zotto.
siempre he comentado septos transversales y en un maximo de seis, yo no he visto septos longitudinales en ninguna preparacion.
Rafael

On your first photos I overlooked this although I now see it clearly. Wel, when even the brown spores have no longisepta then this is not any of the Tryblidaria species. A relation to Patellaria seems to me beyond doubt, but I have never seen such species. No idea, really interesting.