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Saccobolus
Malcolm Greaves, 19-08-2020 13:08
Malcolm  GreavesHello
Is anyone able to confirm that this is just S citrinus or something else. 
Found on deer dung a small .33mm yellow apothecia. The spore packets were 43-49 x 20 and the brown spores 14.75-15.9 c 7.25 with no obvious ornamentation. Ascii deep blue in Meltzers. Although there were no ejected spores on this first sample they looked to be very loosely held together.
Thanks for any thoughts.

Mal
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Jacky Launoy, 20-08-2020 08:52
Re : Saccobolus
Hallo Malcom,
try Saccobolus saccoboloides because the spore-clusters are very loose and the ascospores free at maturity.
Jacky
Malcolm Greaves, 20-08-2020 10:48
Malcolm  Greaves
Re : Saccobolus
Thanks Jacky
I did look at that in van Brummelen and it is the only one mentioned with the spore separation feature. The asci is the right size and shape and although the spores are a bit on the small size
I cannot see anything else it could be and unlike a previous suggested find on the forum many of the spores are definitely separating.
Mal
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Chris Yeates, 20-08-2020 13:28
Chris Yeates
Re : Saccobolus
Hi Mal

Another Saccobolus with separating spore-clusters is S. eleutherosporus http://www.ascofrance.com/search_recolte/4784 but I think you can safely rule that out. The spores are much paler in that species.

Chris
Joop van der Lee, 24-08-2020 16:00
Joop van der Lee
Re : Saccobolus
Hello Malcolm,

To me your determination seems to be correct.
I do have some samples of my own collection from 2013 on rabbit dung.
Ascus 117.9-35.3 um expanding in length before cluster release in this case to 130 um with almost the same width.
Spore cluister 47.8-52.0x14.7-15.7 um. 
Spores 19.3-20.5x8.2-10.0 um, spores are blunt at both ends, covered with fine warts.
Paraphyses 1,7 um with 2.7 um at the top.

Before pressure is given to the deck glass clusters are still compact i.a.w. pattern 1 (fig-1) but with a litte pressure they separate inside the ascus (fig 2) at first in two pairs of 4 spores and scattered soon after that.

It seems that clusters stick together when they are surrounded by a gelatinous envelope and scatter without one.
Van Brummelen did not state that the cluster of S. citrinus has an envelope and I did not see one.
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Malcolm Greaves, 25-08-2020 12:54
Malcolm  Greaves
Re : Saccobolus
Thanks Joop for the agreement.
Mal