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Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
Miguel Ángel Ribes, 18-11-2010 00:38
Miguel Ãngel RibesHi again

This is a small ascomycete of 3-4 mm, on beech (Fagus sylvatica) that was inside a stream. Biseriate with croziers asci, and the following reactions:
* IKI: dark red
* KOH + IKI: dark blue
* Melzer: very weak dirty red
* KOH + Melzer: dark blue

Large 3-septate spores, sometimes with 2, slightly strangled in the septa:
(19.5) 20.4 - 25 (28.6) x (4.4) 4.7 - 5.8 (7.3) µm
Q = (3) 3.7 - 5 (5.6) ; N = 55
Me = 22.8 x 5.2 µm ; Qe = 4.4

Paraphyses thickened and pigmented at the apex.

With the keys I arrive to Niptera, Phaeohelotium, Bisporella or Cudoniella, but no more.

Thank you again,

Miguel Ángel
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Miguel Ángel Ribes, 18-11-2010 00:39
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
Asci with IKI
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Miguel Ángel Ribes, 18-11-2010 00:39
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
KOH + IKI
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Miguel Ángel Ribes, 18-11-2010 00:40
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
Melzer
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Miguel Ángel Ribes, 18-11-2010 00:40
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
KOH + Melzer
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Miguel Ángel Ribes, 18-11-2010 00:41
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
Spores
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Miguel Ángel Ribes, 18-11-2010 00:41
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
And finally paraphysis

Thank you,

Miguel Ángel
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Miguel Ángel Ribes, 18-11-2010 00:43
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
Sorry, I forgot, asci with water.
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Andreas Gminder, 18-11-2010 00:54
Andreas Gminder
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
Hello,

looks very much like Ombrophila hemiamyloidea Baral & Gminder!
abstract: http://www.mycologia-bavarica.de/de/abstracts/abstracts_03.htm#baral_3

Especially the reddish reaction of the spora sheet is a important feature and it seems to be seen on your first picture.

best regards,
Andreas
Miguel Ángel Ribes, 18-11-2010 01:14
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
Hi Adreas

I have more spores with IKI, with the sheet, I though.
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Miguel Ángel Ribes, 18-11-2010 01:15
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
And one more.

Thank you Andreas

Miguel Ángel
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Miguel Ángel Ribes, 18-11-2010 01:18
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
And I have see the crystals of Zotto's draw, too.
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Andreas Gminder, 18-11-2010 01:22
Andreas Gminder
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
Yepp, I see no reason why the determination should be wrong. But let's see if le maître has some arguments against it ....
I think new for spain.

best regards,
Andreas
Alain GARDIENNET, 18-11-2010 07:12
Alain GARDIENNET
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
Hans-Otto Baral, 18-11-2010 08:50
Hans-Otto Baral
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
No doubt :-)

The excipulum and therefore the apothecia should be somewhat gelatinous.

Miguel, did you collect it in Spain or Macaronesia? Please let me know the collection data to learn more about its distribution..
thanks!

Zotto
Miguel Ángel Ribes, 18-11-2010 09:46
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
Wonderful. Thank you Andreas, Alain, Zotto ... and Enrique

Yes Zotto, it was gelatinous. It is from Iberian Penísnula, not Macaronesia, but I do not know exactly the location. I did not pick up the species, just know that there was wood in a stream, I will ask the collector.

Thank you all again.
Miguel Ángel Ribes, 19-11-2010 01:17
Miguel Ãngel Ribes
Re:Niptera / Phaeohelotium ?
Hi Zotto

This is the chorology:

España, Burgos, Barbadillo de Herreros, Arroyo de Valcavado, 30T VM901703, 1.387 m, sobre madera de haya (Fagus sylvatica) sumergida en el agua de un riachuelo, 19-X-2010, leg. José Cuesta, MAR191010-635.

Miguel Ángel