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17-04-2025 15:37

Nicolas VAN VOOREN Nicolas VAN VOOREN

Bonjour.Je suis à la recherche de collections (r

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Jan Eckstein

Hello,there is an interesting collection of a tiny

16-04-2025 08:53

Josep Torres Josep Torres

Hello.An anamorph photographed under holm oaks thi

15-04-2025 15:06

Francois Guay Francois Guay

I found this small white disco on decaying deciduo

13-04-2025 22:47

éric ROMERO éric ROMERO

Bonjour, Je sollicite votre avis pour cette colle

15-04-2025 21:39

Andreas Gminder Andreas Gminder

Dear all,struggeling as every year with the aquati

10-04-2025 10:09

Mathias Hass Mathias Hass

Hi, Found in March on last years stick from Rubus

09-04-2025 19:37

Miguel Ãngel Ribes Miguel Ángel Ribes

Good afternoon This 1-2 mm Mollisia was growing o

14-04-2025 23:19

Viktorie Halasu Viktorie Halasu

Hello, I've microscoped exsiccate of an Otidea wh

14-04-2025 15:11

Lennert Gees

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Phaeohelotium fagineum ?
Thierry Blondelle, 04-06-2024 21:26
Thierry BlondelleBonjour,
Je vous soumets cette récolte sur faîne (cupules of Fagus) que j'ai déterminée comme étant  Paeohelotium fagineum d'après la clé de Declercq (est-ce la dernier version pour les Hymenoscyphus ?)
J'ai tout de même quelques interrogations sur mon interprétation de la micro:

-  Je distingue 3 couches succesives sous-hyméniales (une couche d'excipulum hymenial de type intricata, une couche intermédiaire de type porrecta, une couche d'excipulum ectal basale de type globulosa-angularis.

- Un OCI voisin de 2 plutôt que de 0-1

- des spores à 1-2 cellules. Est-ce un critère récurrent ?

Mes observations sont-elles suffisantes et confirment-elles l'espèce ?

Merci pour vos avis.

Salutations

Thierry

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Hans-Otto Baral, 04-06-2024 23:14
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Re : Phaeohelotium fagineum ?
P. fagineum is a species with a short stout stipe. The living paraphyses do not contain VBs in your case which excludes a lot of Hymenoscyphi. Important would be to clarfy whether the spores are ejected when non-septate or when septate. If you find living mature asci you will see that. Also iodine reaction and croziers are required.
Thierry Blondelle, 05-06-2024 07:28
Thierry Blondelle
Re : Phaeohelotium fagineum ?
Thanks Zotto for these new ways of research.
Thierry Blondelle, 05-06-2024 23:12
Thierry Blondelle
Re : Phaeohelotium fagineum ?
Here are new élements of observation
- Spores are two-cells  septated in both living asci and after expulsion.
- IKI+on asci
- For the croziers, i'm not sure. To confirm on the picture.
Can we always consider Hymenoscyphi ?
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Hans-Otto Baral, 06-06-2024 08:50
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Phaeohelotium fagineum ?
The apical ring looks Hymenoscyphus-like, but that type occurs also elsewhere. I see no living asci, we cannot be sure about the expulsion. And for croziers I am similarly uncertain, one needs the cel below, unruptured from the ascus.

My first idea was H. varicosporoides, but I remembered that species only with a short stalk. Now when looking in my folder there are several with long stalks (e.g. 18.II.2015, J. Balda). Also the original description refers to a long-stalked fungus. So I think this is a good option. The fungus has an interesting anamorph adapted to running or standing water.
Thierry Blondelle, 06-06-2024 13:52
Thierry Blondelle
Re : Phaeohelotium fagineum ?
Thanks a lot. The fungus rised on beechnuts fallen to the edge of a little stream. This confirm it is a species of damp places.
I am going to try another micros. How to identify living asci ?
Hans-Otto Baral, 06-06-2024 17:17
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Phaeohelotium fagineum ?
Well, sorry, I wrote this 100x in this forum. Please go to my old homepage, the front page illustrates without words.