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Cistella on wood of Fagus sylvatica (not Pinus sylvestris)
Maren Kamke, 20-03-2022 17:41
Maren KamkeGood evening,
I found a Cistella sp. on decaying coniferous wood, hairapex capitate, granulate, Asci with croziers, up to 52 µm long mostly shorter than 50 µm, IKI+ blue, spores 1celled, with oil content 0-1, 7,5 x 2,7 µm, paraphyses cylindrical.

Thanks for your help
Regards
Maren

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Hans-Otto Baral, 20-03-2022 20:30
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Cistella on wood of Pinus sylvatica
Hallo Maren

as a working name I can offer C. granulosella (= Clavidisculum karstenii), although I know it only from angiosperm wood. But C. dentata is very similar.

Zotto
Stip Helleman, 20-03-2022 20:57
Stip Helleman
Re : Cistella on wood of Pinus sylvatica
Hallo Maren and Zotto,

another idea is that it is Ciliolarinia laetifica in the sense of the enlarged species concept of Raitviir & Huhtinen (2002)

Stip
Hans-Otto Baral, 20-03-2022 21:12
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Cistella on wood of Pinus sylvatica
Hmm, what I see in my folder of C. laetifica is longer cylindrical hairs and shorter, fusoid, biguttulate spores.
Stip Helleman, 20-03-2022 21:20
Stip Helleman
Re : Cistella on wood of Pinus sylvatica
the collections with biguttulate spores and asci IKI- are to my opinion C. ligniseda. Raitviir and Huhtinen did enlarge the species concept with collections that have IKI+ asci and spores with lower oil content. (unnamed species to my opinion)

Stip
Hans-Otto Baral, 20-03-2022 22:10
Hans-Otto Baral
Re : Cistella on wood of Pinus sylvatica
Ciliolarina is a mess. For HB 8066 (IKI-) I wrote first cf. neglecta, but you said it is probably laetifica. Now you say ligniseda...

But I meant also the folder IKI+ which includes such broad fusoid spores with +/- oil content, size 4-6.5 x 2-3.

Maren's find goes up to 9 and has 7.5 as middle.
Maren Kamke, 20-03-2022 22:37
Maren Kamke
Re : Cistella on wood of Pinus sylvatica
Thank you Zotto and Stip,

I thought also of C. granulosella, had only doubts about the slightly larger spore-width. In the literature the maximal spore width is 2,5 µm.

The mesurements of my find don't fit for Ciliolarinia laetifica. Cistella dentata has larger dimensions overall.

Maren
Stip Helleman, 20-03-2022 22:40
Stip Helleman
Re : Cistella on wood of Pinus sylvatica
Yes, Ciliolarina should be disentangled, probably it contains several more species.

indeed this sporelength excludes laetifica.

Stip
Maren Kamke, 21-03-2022 21:57
Maren Kamke
Re : Cistella on wood of Fagus sylvatica
I examined the wood under a microscope and a wood specialist identified it as Fagus sylvatica. Maren


Stip Helleman, 21-03-2022 23:11
Stip Helleman
Re : Cistella on wood of Fagus sylvatica (not Pinus sylvestris)
Hi Maren,

That explains the Cistella and not Ciliolarins

Cheers

Stip