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Asco on possibly Fagus wood
Thorben Hülsewig,
27-12-2020 20:00
2 weeks ago I found this Asco on a possibly Fagus wood.
The spores seem to have a gel coat.
Do you have any idea what this could be ?
best regards,
Thorben
Hans-Otto Baral,
27-12-2020 20:59
Re : Asco on possibly Fagus wood
This looks too banal. Perhaps a Hyaloscypha without hairs?
Thorben Hülsewig,
28-12-2020 17:16
Re : Asco on possibly Fagus wood
I don't know, but I always associate Hyaloscypha with the presence of hairs.
best regards,
Thorben
best regards,
Thorben
Hans-Otto Baral,
28-12-2020 17:26
Re : Asco on possibly Fagus wood
That's right, but ITS showed that hairless or almost so species such as H. minuta (earlier Parorbiliopsis) fuly fall in the genus and closely resemble those with distinct hairs.
Thorben Hülsewig,
28-12-2020 18:08
Re : Asco on possibly Fagus wood
This is very interesting and helps me with another asco where I now think it is a Hyaloscypha minuta.
The asco from this topic i save as cf. Hyaloscypha. Dried Material is also present.
The asco from this topic i save as cf. Hyaloscypha. Dried Material is also present.
Mirek Gryc,
28-12-2020 20:34
Re : Asco on possibly Fagus wood
Hi
Zotto, I'm probably wrong, but don't you think a lot of the details are very similar to Ciliolarina pinicola, except of course the substrate?
Such a loose association, because the photos do not show all the features.
Ascomata looks slightly overripe?
Mirek
Such a loose association, because the photos do not show all the features.
Ascomata looks slightly overripe?
Mirek
Hans-Otto Baral,
28-12-2020 20:49
Re : Asco on possibly Fagus wood
Mirek, I am not sure. Ciliolarina has VBs, though not very distinct, and brownish rough hairs. Also it is drought-tolerant, I guess this one less so.
Mirek Gryc,
28-12-2020 21:09
Re : Asco on possibly Fagus wood
Hi Zotto
Thank you Zotto for the comment and explanation!
Not everything suited this genre for me too, but that was my first association and I wanted to know on the basis of what features did you reject this genre?
I was only suggesting a similarity to Ciliolarina pinicola. The Thorben collection is definitely not her, the croziers are clearly visible here.
greetings
Mirek







