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Puede ser Helminthosporium quercicola?
Angel Pintos, 25-02-2018 12:55
Angel PintosSobre rama muerta de Quercus, puede ser Helminthosporium quercicola?
gracias por la ayuda
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Alain GARDIENNET, 25-02-2018 22:36
Alain GARDIENNET
Re : Puede ser Helminthosporium quercicola?

Hi Angel,


Difficult to distinguish H. quercinum, H. quercicola and H. microsorum only with asexual morph.


Alain


PS Very nice picture !

Angel Pintos, 26-02-2018 10:12
Angel Pintos
Re : Puede ser Helminthosporium quercicola?
Thanks for your answer Alain.
I wrote quercicola instead of quercinum. I have some immature ascomata and by the sexual morph at the moment I can not identify it.
Thanks again.
Regards
Angel
Hermann Voglmayr, 27-02-2018 11:49
Hermann Voglmayr
Re : Puede ser Helminthosporium quercicola?

On which Quercus species? On Quercus ilex in all cases examined we have only seen H. microsorum.


Best, Hermann

Angel Pintos, 27-02-2018 12:33
Angel Pintos
Re : Puede ser Helminthosporium quercicola?
I found it on twigs of Quercus ilex

Regards

Angel
Hermann Voglmayr, 27-02-2018 13:09
Hermann Voglmayr
Re : Puede ser Helminthosporium quercicola?
Ya, then should be microsorum. also the fascicle of conidiophores as illustrated is quite distinctive, H. microsorum always has such punctiform conidiophore groups, often aggregated in large numbers but never effused.
Angel Pintos, 27-02-2018 13:28
Angel Pintos
Re : Puede ser Helminthosporium quercicola?
Then if you say it must be microssorum, I will try to find somo moore ascomata to see if I find mature ascospores and try to know better this fungus.

Asexual morph sporulate in culture?

Thanks Hemann

Regards from 
Mallorca


Hermann Voglmayr, 27-02-2018 15:56
Hermann Voglmayr
Re : Puede ser Helminthosporium quercicola?
Hola Angel,
It did not sporulate in our cultures on MEA; however, we didn't try other media. According to our experience the asexual morph is not uncommon but sometimes difficult to see; often there are just slight elevations of the bark, and very commonly the conidiophores grow densely above the ascomata (likewise also in H. quercinum). So it is always a good idea to look beyond elevated bumps bearing fascicles of conidiophores. The ascospores are very diagnostic, by the wavy outline of the inner wall.
Saludos,
Hermann
Angel Pintos, 27-02-2018 16:36
Angel Pintos
Re : Puede ser Helminthosporium quercicola?
Gracias Hermann