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Elisabeth Stöckli,
19-06-2016 21:43
Voici une espèce trouvée sur feuilles et fruits de ronce.
Apothécies 1-2.5mm de diamètre, hyménium brun, stipe 2-4 mm, brun foncé
Asques 55-75x6-7µm, octosporés, IKI+
Spores 8-10x3-3.5µm
Paraphyses legèrement brun, septés
Merci d'avance pour votre aide.
Elisabeth
Thomas Læssøe,
19-06-2016 21:48
Re : Sur ronce
it would be super if hosts could be given in Latin (and local language) and likewise if the locality could be given: Country, region etc. :-) (this is not directed towards this forum entry but to all forum entries) :-)
cheers
cheers
Elisabeth Stöckli,
19-06-2016 22:01
Re : Sur ronce
Rubus sp. (probablement frutigosus)
Jura Suisse, à 820m , pinède thermophile.
Elisabeth
Jura Suisse, à 820m , pinède thermophile.
Elisabeth
Gernot Friebes,
19-06-2016 22:27
Re : Sur ronce
Hi Elisabeth,
could be this Moellerodiscus species on Rubus, here's the link to Zotto's folder: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5SeyOEkxxZhUHB0RWNSLUpBa1U&usp=drive_web&tid=0B5SeyOEkxxZhYVZub0N1aGY5YTg
I'm sure he will give you a more detailed answer.
Best wishes,
Gernot
could be this Moellerodiscus species on Rubus, here's the link to Zotto's folder: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5SeyOEkxxZhUHB0RWNSLUpBa1U&usp=drive_web&tid=0B5SeyOEkxxZhYVZub0N1aGY5YTg
I'm sure he will give you a more detailed answer.
Best wishes,
Gernot
Hans-Otto Baral,
19-06-2016 23:36
Re : Sur ronce
This seems a good idea, Gernot, I am only sceptical because of the shape of apical ring. It looks to mee to much like Calycina-type. Maybe it is because the asci are still turgescent?
The globose excipulum supports the idea Moellerodiscus.
Would be good to clarify the ascus base (croziers?).
The globose excipulum supports the idea Moellerodiscus.
Would be good to clarify the ascus base (croziers?).
Elisabeth Stöckli,
20-06-2016 01:08
Re : Sur ronce
Merci Gernot et Zotto!
Ascus base with croziers.
Elisabeth
Ascus base with croziers.
Elisabeth
Hans-Otto Baral,
20-06-2016 07:08
Re : Sur ronce
Yes, indeed. This ascus is dead - but it looks to me still like Calycina type. A riddle, I am upset....
Thanks for the ecodata - I appreciate, they are really important, as these data may get completely lost with the years.
Now when I compare my drawing of Moellerodiscus tenuistipes, I must say that this species fits quite well. The apical ring there does not really look like Sclerotinia-type, nevertheless it must belong in this or any close genus.
Zotto
Thanks for the ecodata - I appreciate, they are really important, as these data may get completely lost with the years.
Now when I compare my drawing of Moellerodiscus tenuistipes, I must say that this species fits quite well. The apical ring there does not really look like Sclerotinia-type, nevertheless it must belong in this or any close genus.
Zotto
Elisabeth Stöckli,
20-06-2016 19:50
Re : Sur ronce
Ja, könnte mit M. tenuistipes übereinstimmen.
Substrat sind vertrocknete Äste von Brombeerstauden, hängend oder auf dem Boden liegend, die Fruchtkörper wachsen auf den Blättern und Blütenständen (nicht Früchten).
Elisabeth
Substrat sind vertrocknete Äste von Brombeerstauden, hängend oder auf dem Boden liegend, die Fruchtkörper wachsen auf den Blättern und Blütenständen (nicht Früchten).
Elisabeth