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Yet another Scutellinia
Malcolm Greaves,
15-10-2012 21:03
This group were found on a recently felled conifer.I have tried to be methodical but each find although they look so different in the wild look so similar under the scope and I keep coming back to the same place in the key.
Apothecia up to 4.5 mm with tufts of two types of dark small hairs at the margin
Ascus 260 x 21.5
Average of 10 spores 21.06 x 12.06 Q 1.75
Hairs max 720 x 32
Can anyone advise.
Thanks
Malcolm
Beñat Jeannerot,
16-10-2012 14:16
Re : Yet another Scutellinia
Adio Mal,
It seems to me that is important to make sporogram if you want anything about Scutellinias.
Here, in my mind, we have a specimen of S. crinita (habitat, macro and spores), or we have a specimen of S. olivascens (hairs and spores), or we have a specimen of S. "scutellata complex" (base of hairs, pubescent margin)... etc.
It's very difficult to say anything.
This genus is difficult, very difficult and I think that's necessary to have a lot of data, in particular on sporal ornementation. It's necessary to have a sporogram or a lot of spores in asci with a easy recognized sporal ornementation.
Here, I'm unable to say something,
Amically,
Beñat
It seems to me that is important to make sporogram if you want anything about Scutellinias.
Here, in my mind, we have a specimen of S. crinita (habitat, macro and spores), or we have a specimen of S. olivascens (hairs and spores), or we have a specimen of S. "scutellata complex" (base of hairs, pubescent margin)... etc.
It's very difficult to say anything.
This genus is difficult, very difficult and I think that's necessary to have a lot of data, in particular on sporal ornementation. It's necessary to have a sporogram or a lot of spores in asci with a easy recognized sporal ornementation.
Here, I'm unable to say something,
Amically,
Beñat
Malcolm Greaves,
16-10-2012 15:44
Re : Yet another Scutellinia
Beñat?
Sorry to show my ignorance but what is a "sporogram"
Thanks
Malcolm
Sorry to show my ignorance but what is a "sporogram"
Thanks
Malcolm
Beñat Jeannerot,
16-10-2012 22:42
Re : Yet another Scutellinia
Adio Mal,
I don't know if I can explain this...
A sporogram is "ejection of spores on a little slide". It represents mature spores, natural ejection by maturity... It's necessary to put a slide on Scutellinias and wait some time to have a white projection on it...
When you have, you can put it in Cotton Blue and make photos. So, a lot of spores with a good view on sporal ornementation like the picture attached (Scutellinia torrentis),
Amically,
Beñat
I don't know if I can explain this...
A sporogram is "ejection of spores on a little slide". It represents mature spores, natural ejection by maturity... It's necessary to put a slide on Scutellinias and wait some time to have a white projection on it...
When you have, you can put it in Cotton Blue and make photos. So, a lot of spores with a good view on sporal ornementation like the picture attached (Scutellinia torrentis),
Amically,
Beñat
Malcolm Greaves,
17-10-2012 00:53
Re : Yet another Scutellinia
Thanks I will try and do this.
Malcolm
Malcolm
Malcolm Greaves,
18-10-2012 01:06
Re : Yet another Scutellinia
When I got a lot of ejected spores together I had trouble getting more than one or two to show the ornamentation but here are a few which I hope show enough detail
Malcolm
Malcolm
